Many Weird Issues (Please Help)

Hi everyone, I hope with your combined experience you can tell me what this issue is because it's driving me mad, I've completely ran out of ideas now. I've owned the car for 2 years now and I've never had any of these issues before, they've all cropped up in the past month. I just hope it's one issue instead of many!

I've been creeping around the forums for a few weeks now trying to find something similar and at times I have but the fixes haven't worked, plus I want sure if these are 4 seperate problems, apposed to 1.

I have read the MAP sensor could come loose and it was, so I bought another of eBay (Because it broke), fitted it to the car, put some sealant around the sensor and put a cable tie around it so it's not loose at all. I have also cleaned the throttle inlet, there was a little muck and oil (I think) in there so now that's clean.

So the issues,

1) It idles quite high say around 1,500/1,600 every time I start it, unless I've just come back of a drive that lasted more than 30 minutes. It may go down to 1,000 after 5 or so minutes, but even then the idle seems really jumpy and inconsistent. so it sounds a bit rough sometimes.

2) The throttle if revved seems to get stuck sometimes at say 2,200, 2,000 or 1,800 for between 5-20 seconds before going back to whatever the idle is one that particular day. This means when at junctions if I'm about to set off but see another car at the last minute, the engine will keep its rev's at 2,000 which is pretty annoying and loud due to my exhaust.

3) There seems to be a flat spot at around 2,500-3,000 revs where nothing really seems to happen for bit. Also sometimes then engine makes a weird noise that can only be described as like a splutter. It's sort of like the ESP is kicking in and limiting the engine so it like it's been held back. But surly the ESP wouldn't kick in when you put your foot down in 6th doing 40mph on dry roads would it?

4) Lastly (Thank god!) but the most dangerous by far is there's sometimes no power in 1st for 2-3 seconds. So if I'm at some traffic lights or a roundabout and I've stopped, if I see a gap I'll set off, it will go forward a bit but the revs will stay low (By this time I'm on the roundabout doing 3mph) then it will all of a sudden come back to life and I'll shoot off as my foot is where 4,000 revs should be but I was only doing 1,200. It's similar to when you'll set of in 3rd and there's no power for a bit, but I know I'm in 1st.

I hope you can help or I'm screwed, because No 4 will result in an accident I just know haha

Cheers everyone!
 
Just seen your other thread re the Renflash map that you have - could it be this that's causing the poor running?? Any fault codes showing (if you are able to read these)?
 
Just seen your other thread re the Renflash map that you have - could it be this that's causing the poor running?? Any fault codes showing (if you are able to read these)?

Cheers for the responses!

I don't have a sprint booster fitted dceo.

I doubt its remap, admittedly I didn't have these problems before, but it was running fine for 2-3 weeks but it's just started playing up a lot! Even if I put the original map on it is still the same. I do have a scanner but it's currently not in my possession. Should have it Monday and I'll take a look again, but I checked a few weeks ago and I don't think there were any codes.
 
Could also check the plug that goes into the top of the pedal. Mine screwed up and kept giving me injection faults and other intermittent problems.
 
Could also check the plug that goes into the top of the pedal. Mine screwed up and kept giving me injection faults and other intermittent problems.

I will do, am I just checking to make sure everything is plugged in correctly? I do every now and then get an injection fault and something about the ESP, but that hasn't come up in a week or so.
 
plug it in and check the lambda readings....

I wouldn't use an ebay map sensor...you can get genuine ones from motor factors

also worth spraying around with some carb cleaner to test for air leaks
 
plug it in and check the lambda readings....

I wouldn't use an ebay map sensor...you can get genuine ones from motor factors

also worth spraying around with some carb cleaner to test for air leaks

I do have a regular scanner, but someone else currently has it unfortunately. I'm should get it back tomorrow or on Tuesday to see what's up. But I think the best bet now is to try and take it to a Renault specialist and see if they can find the problem.
 
plug it in and check the lambda readings....

I wouldn't use an ebay map sensor...you can get genuine ones from motor factors

also worth spraying around with some carb cleaner to test for air leaks

Just to reiterate on the map sensor part, old thread will see if I can find it but someone went through like 3 eBay map sensors and they kept giving him faults, in the end he had to buy OEM!
 
Just to reiterate on the map sensor part, old thread will see if I can find it but someone went through like 3 eBay map sensors and they kept giving him faults, in the end he had to buy OEM!

Yeah, it wasn't great with the original as it was broken but this one doesn't seem great. What is an OEM by the way? And would you recommend purchasing on the MAP sensor front?
 
As for fault 3...when I had that issue one of my new NGK spark plugs was cracked.
Would you say this is a strong possibility? I had some new spark plugs fitted about 3 months ago for my service, wouldn't the crack be noticeable from the start? Cheers for all the replies btw everyone :smile:
 
Hi You could have an air leak. You get the same thing if the rubber gasket is damaged between the throttle body and the inlet manifold. check this hasn't been pitched / damaged by someone. Trouble is this doesn't show as a fault code. It may be that air is getting in somewhere else also. it's a pain but you have to make sure that no 'extra' air is sucked into the engine after the throttle body!. The engine management is trying to balance the mixture hence the rubbish tick over etc etc. I know this as I didn't tighten one of the TB screws up and it ran so badly!! almost the same symptoms You may even have a crack somewhere so be very careful looking. The ultimate check would be to pressurise the inlet system feed air in through the throttle body hole (Sealed) and do a bubble check, ( dilute washing up liquid and check each joint etc) You don't need more than a few millibar though!! any cracks/leaks will show up as small bubbles.

I think that would be Nos 1-3 as for Number 4 sounds like the TB butterfly is sticking??? make sure it's clean (then test it) and no one has left anything that would restrict it?? I have heard of allsorts of various air filter elements etc being sucked into the inlet worth checking this. I'd be inclined to take the inlet system off and make sure it's totally clean..

Good luck , Dave
 
Hi You could have an air leak. You get the same thing if the rubber gasket is damaged between the throttle body and the inlet manifold. check this hasn't been pitched / damaged by someone. Trouble is this doesn't show as a fault code. It may be that air is getting in somewhere else also. it's a pain but you have to make sure that no 'extra' air is sucked into the engine after the throttle body!. The engine management is trying to balance the mixture hence the rubbish tick over etc etc. I know this as I didn't tighten one of the TB screws up and it ran so badly!! almost the same symptoms You may even have a crack somewhere so be very careful looking. The ultimate check would be to pressurise the inlet system feed air in through the throttle body hole (Sealed) and do a bubble check, ( dilute washing up liquid and check each joint etc) You don't need more than a few millibar though!! any cracks/leaks will show up as small bubbles.

I think that would be Nos 1-3 as for Number 4 sounds like the TB butterfly is sticking??? make sure it's clean (then test it) and no one has left anything that would restrict it?? I have heard of allsorts of various air filter elements etc being sucked into the inlet worth checking this. I'd be inclined to take the inlet system off and make sure it's totally clean..

Good luck , Dave

Cheers Dave, your certainly are an early bird haha!

It makes sense, but it's just trying to find it. I'll give that a go later on after work. I cleaned the TB a few weeks ago and it seems normal and smooth, but i will take another look to see if anything is creeping in. Hopefully it will be going in to the garage soon and they should be able to find it with the right diagnostic tools. Thanks again Dave!
 
Cheers Dave, your certainly are an early bird haha!

It makes sense, but it's just trying to find it. I'll give that a go later on after work. I cleaned the TB a few weeks ago and it seems normal and smooth, but i will take another look to see if anything is creeping in. Hopefully it will be going in to the garage soon and they should be able to find it with the right diagnostic tools. Thanks again Dave!

thats why I put spray around with some carb cleaner to check for air leaks as the spray will effect the engine running if its pulling in air....