Upgrading Cabasse Auditorium

Discussion in 'Interior and Audio' started by Mattb_197, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Mattb_197

    Mattb_197

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    Clio Sport 197
    My Clio has the Cabasse Auditorium with the bulk of the unit under the drivers seat, along with the wires.

    Are there any kits out there that allow you to fit an aftermarket head unit into the dash in place of the built in CD changer or is it a case of extending the wires yourself?

    I'm missing the ability to use a USB and be able to skip through tracks with the cars interface. CDs are a bit 1990s for me especially as the changer isn't capable of playing data discs with MP3s on. I did think about wiring in an 3.5mm Aux lead but it's still not ideal. I'd like to change the head unit if possible.

    Apologies if this has been asked before!
     

  2. montana

    montana

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    A Bluetooth enables head unit would fit your needs wouldn't it ? Allowing streaming of music from your phone ? You can also buy a connects 2 kit to retain the steering wheel controls.
     
  3. DS197

    DS197 POTM Winner - June 2017 Paid Member

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    All aftermarket headunits replace the cd changer in the dash. The wires are already extended from the underseat unit to the dash. It's plug and play and a connects2 kit allows you to change tracks, the source and volume. You will need a aerial cable extension lead which runs from the dash to under your seat if you want the radio with your new headunit
     
  4. Mattb_197

    Mattb_197

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    Location:
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    Car:
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    The issue is swapping it out for another head unit, the gubbins of the head unit itself are under the drivers seat you see and the part in the dash is just basically a 6 disc changer with buttons on the front. So it's not as simple as popping that out and the wires are there in the dash ready to go for the new one.

    I know I can buy a Bluetooth module to hook up to the standard system but the sound quality isn't the best and eventually I want to wire up a set of decent components in the front from an amp and a nice under seat sub to improve the sound.
     
  5. Mattb_197

    Mattb_197

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    Location:
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    Car:
    Clio Sport 197
    From what I've read elsewhere cars with the Cabasse Auditorium upgrade from the factory have all the wires under the drivers seat going to the speakers etc. Hence the issue.

    EDIT: Just popped it out to have a look, defiantly no ISO leads running up to the dash area they all go under the seat into the unit under there. Looks like it's going to require some re-wiring or buying some ISO extenders. Also a picture on here that shows how the under seat unit is wired.

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    Last edited: Jan 3, 2016
  6. jord1995

    jord1995 Gold Member

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    The ios leads are in the dash take the head unit out and they are plugged in up top out the way it's easiero see you take out the whole front dash fascia and have a look I had the upgraded unit in my car and that's where my leads were
     
  7. DS197

    DS197 POTM Winner - June 2017 Paid Member

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    Yeap, all the leads are there. I have the same system and upgraded the headunit too.
     
  8. jord1995

    jord1995 Gold Member

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    Don't worry took me a while to find them lol but they are 100% there plugged in to a holder out the way
     
  9. Mattb_197

    Mattb_197

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    Cool, thanks lads. I might have a poke around this weekend! I've got an old Sony HU that does MP3 and has USB from my previous car that I was going to sell, so might pop that in for now see if I can get it up and running. I've read if I want to keep the screen functionality I need an Alipine HU? Though to be fair I'm not megga fussed about that, I would like to get the steering controls working though so might have to look into the adapter.
     
  10. jord1995

    jord1995 Gold Member

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    I didn't bothering with the screen display but getting the hand controls to work is on my to do list
     
  11. DS197

    DS197 POTM Winner - June 2017 Paid Member

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    Neither did I, it was simply too much hassle and uncertainty with what headunits work and don't work. You'll need this adapter for the hand controls: http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/conn...go-stalk-control-adaptor.html?search=CTSRN005 Space is tight back there and I had to remove my glovebox to get it all to fit, but it works perfectly. Don't forget the patch lead too
     
  12. Ollie98

    Ollie98

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    I know this is an old thread but massively struggling.
    I have a mk3 clio that has a Cabesse tronic with the main part under the drivers seat. I've bought a pioneer hu but really would rather use a harness adapter than rewire. Where are the ISO leads as I've taken the fascia off and can see the leads into the tronic leading off to I assume under the driver seat?
    Any help would be hugely appreciated
     
  13. TomPenn

    TomPenn Paid Member

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    Hi guys, any help massively appreciated. I've got the cabasse system with the block under the drivers seat. Taken out the HU and started connecting up the connects 2 005 etc. I've connected up the two iso blocks that were tucked away up at the back. But for the life of me I can't find the little yellow connector. Taken out the glove box to get a closer look but still not joy.
    Do I need to run something from the box under the seat to the dash to connect this up to get the steering controls working? Stereo working ok but not controls, I think because the yellow isn't connected to anything.
    Car is '08 197
     
  14. turkie172

    turkie172 Paid Member

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  15. TomPenn

    TomPenn Paid Member

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    Aha! Many thanks, that's the one I've got. I think someone has done this trick, I've got an aux cable hanging out the back of the unit under the seat, just assumed this was standard. Only had the car a few weeks...
    That guide was interesting because I can see the little yellow iso is on the amp under the seat. I'll either run an extension up to the back of the hu or look at the wires and see if the extras in the power iso match up and then somehow use those.
    Once I'd taken the old cabasse hu unit out right at the back there were some iso leads connected up I disconnected those and used the male side to connect the patch lead and the stereo worked. Just need to sort the yellow iso out
     
  16. TomPenn

    TomPenn Paid Member

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    Ok, that didn't work. The yellow under the seat only has two wires in it and it looks like the connect2 is expecting 5.
    I reconnected the iso extenders in the dash and connected the connects2 to the 3 iso's under the drivers seat. Thought that might work and then I'd only have to extend the yellow back up or trace the wires back to the dash. However the steering controls still didn't work.
    I've also just heard back from connects2 and they say they've never looked into the cabasse system so don't have a suitable connector. Guess the 005 isn't going to work then.
    Anyone managed to replace the cabasse auditorium and keep the steering controls?
     
  17. turkie172

    turkie172 Paid Member

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    The Cabasse system is connected in a different way for remote stem controls with the link loom to under the seat what are you trying to do and what you have we might be able to help.
     
  18. TomPenn

    TomPenn Paid Member

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    I'm trying to get the remote stem controls working with my new sony head unit. On mine, I'm not sure if it's the same for others I had two iso's connected to another loom at the back of the dash. This loom seems to go to under the seat. I've got a connects 2 CTSRN005.2 adaptor that expects 2 iso's and mini yellow iso. I don't have the mini yellow iso in the dash.
    Took out the unit under the seat and have 2 iso's and mini yellow, a mini blue and long red. Plugged the connects2, stereo etc into the ones under the seat and still no stem controls, but all the other functionality from the sony unit.
    If i disconnect the isos in the dash I get no power or anything under the seat, which is why i think the isos are extended to under the seat.
     
  19. turkie172

    turkie172 Paid Member

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    The dash wiring changed between the 197 and the 200 I'm assuming its a 197 you need to disconnect the bridge loom at and below the head unit position. The yellow connector will be there it's part of the loom the longer red connector you will need to remove the handbrake console for better access and to pass the aerial up to the head unit the bridge loom needs removed unbolt the seat tip it back and drill the rivets to remove the amp from the seat frame.
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  20. TomPenn

    TomPenn Paid Member

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    Yes it's a 197. I've removed the red connector from the amp,in fact I've taken out the hu and the amp. I'll leave the box there though, don't fancy drilling the seat.
    Got an aerial extension coming in the post.
    So the little yellow is there somewhere?! Is it down toward the steering wheel or off towards the glovebox? how did you find it?
     

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