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calculated as close as poss, the trip is pretty close.

all turbo other than a couple of m3's

Quite a wide spread of MPG's there, I know it's not designed with economy in mind but i was surprised. I only bought the car as a stop gap whilst I worked out what I want to buy. I'll have some fun with it for a bit and then move it on. Don't get me wrong it's a fun car and handles and stops...

Im struggling to get my head around the fuel my 197 uses considering the relative lack of straight line exceleration it has. It very easy get it into the teens and you really have to drive like Miss Daisy to get above 23mpg. Its a shame as i love the way it corners and stops but dont think i can...

If I take it off will need a new gasket?

ill give that a go, thanks

whats the TB mate? throttle body?

thanks for the replies, I've done the mod with the vacume sensor on top of the block. Its not whilst driving its when your in parked up in neutral, it just seems to bog down before the revs rise.

On my 2007 197, even after the car is warm if i have it in neutral and press the go peddle theres a slight delay/bog down before rev shot up. Also the revs don't drop very quickly. Any ideas? thanks..

yeah I've got speakers in the back.... upgrade time,maybe

You must have a exception Matt, mine would sound better with a old transistor radio blue tacked to the dash...

I've got a metal box under the drivers seat, is that an amp? if so its amped and thats even worse.....

I've owned a lot of cars over the last 25 years some cheap and some very expensive but I've never heard such a terrible stereo. Its even bad played quietly.. If i keep the car i will need to bin the lot and replace it all i think...

thanks guys

Hi, just wondering how I can, at a glance see if there is any replies to any threads that I may have started. Rather than going through them all individually. Thanks...

Hi, what other oem wheels fit the 197? Megan, laguna? 18" maybe. thanks

Is the Torque arm the one right at the top on the left? If so mine seems shot.

thanks Lovell, i think ill try some mounts before chopping bit about..

thanks Jimmy, so its just a holder... pocket it is then..

Ive just bought a 2007 197 and on hard exeliration i get a knocking/vibration from under the car. 1st i thought was exhaust so i had a look and it has a s/steel manifold and centre section. It looks like the down pipes catching the cross member and someone has ground a bit out but not quite...