dangerdaz
Platinum Member
Guys..
Here is a question and the reply posted on 'ask the experts' (renaultsport site)
Fernandez asks
Just wondering why renault publish a power fiqure of 197bhp for the 200 when quite clearly every one who has had one dynoed is well down on power from this fiqure. It seems that most run from 180-187 bhp. Ive even heard of some running lower.
Question 1: Was the engine/map/exhaust the same on the road cars as the test car used to get power fiqures.
Question 2: How many miles did the engine have to get this figure
Question 3: Why dont our engines put out the same BHP, when purchasing the car buyers are led to believe that they are getting x amount of power when in reality the fiqure is much lower, how can this be right??????
Allen responds
Hi, the normal process is that engines are submitted for homologation [after being run in on a engine dynamometer]*with an external authority before claims can be made regarding power, etc.
Also normally when engines are tested for manufacturers they are only tested as the engine alone in a controlled environment [air temp / humidity etc] . Which is very hard to do on rolling roads.
Equally*i think they had 2 different homologations for the 197 and then later for the 200.
*
All of this does not excuse the fact that if all of the customers have the same opinion then something could be wrong.
*
Kind regards
Here is a response to my later similar question (didnt see the earlier one)
dangerdaz asks
Why are all clio 200s well below the power stated by Renault?
Mine has been on 3 rolling roads and all give approx power of 185 rather than that stated by Renault!
Jeremy RUK responds
I don't know why the rolling roads you've been to don't achieve the power output.* Various factors can influence the reading (the ambient temperature, the fuel grade used, the vehicle cooling etc).* The 200 produces 200hp (or 197bhp in imperial measurement).*
Ok..now i dont think ive seen anyone post that their 197/200 gave the quoted power figures.
I feel that this is something that should be highlighted via name and piwer achieved when rr'd. Then when we have a decent amount of names then i will approach RUK with the list.
I feel we have all been short changed in the engine power stakes and feel Renault need to acknowledge it!
Here is a question and the reply posted on 'ask the experts' (renaultsport site)
Fernandez asks
Just wondering why renault publish a power fiqure of 197bhp for the 200 when quite clearly every one who has had one dynoed is well down on power from this fiqure. It seems that most run from 180-187 bhp. Ive even heard of some running lower.
Question 1: Was the engine/map/exhaust the same on the road cars as the test car used to get power fiqures.
Question 2: How many miles did the engine have to get this figure
Question 3: Why dont our engines put out the same BHP, when purchasing the car buyers are led to believe that they are getting x amount of power when in reality the fiqure is much lower, how can this be right??????
Allen responds
Hi, the normal process is that engines are submitted for homologation [after being run in on a engine dynamometer]*with an external authority before claims can be made regarding power, etc.
Also normally when engines are tested for manufacturers they are only tested as the engine alone in a controlled environment [air temp / humidity etc] . Which is very hard to do on rolling roads.
Equally*i think they had 2 different homologations for the 197 and then later for the 200.
*
All of this does not excuse the fact that if all of the customers have the same opinion then something could be wrong.
*
Kind regards
Here is a response to my later similar question (didnt see the earlier one)
dangerdaz asks
Why are all clio 200s well below the power stated by Renault?
Mine has been on 3 rolling roads and all give approx power of 185 rather than that stated by Renault!
Jeremy RUK responds
I don't know why the rolling roads you've been to don't achieve the power output.* Various factors can influence the reading (the ambient temperature, the fuel grade used, the vehicle cooling etc).* The 200 produces 200hp (or 197bhp in imperial measurement).*
Ok..now i dont think ive seen anyone post that their 197/200 gave the quoted power figures.
I feel that this is something that should be highlighted via name and piwer achieved when rr'd. Then when we have a decent amount of names then i will approach RUK with the list.
I feel we have all been short changed in the engine power stakes and feel Renault need to acknowledge it!